Date: Thu, 14 Aug 86 06:08:43 edt From: don@borax.lcs.mit.edu (Donald E. Hopkins) To: mark@mimsy.umd.edu, mgrant@mimsy.umd.edu, don@mimsy.umd.edu, chris@mimsy.umd.edu, adam@borax.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Brief incoherent synopsis ... (not brief, actually) I am at Bandy's, typing on his Mac. I am having a wonderful time. Too busy to type in as many details as there are, but today Gosling gave me a demo of SunDew, his awesome new window system that's programmed in PostScript. It's got light weight multitasking, and is very fast. You've got COMPLETE control over everything, and can do things you would never think possible. Windows of ANY shape, even with holes, that you can scale to any size. He's got a terminal emulator window that does an 80x24 terminal. When you stretch it, it scales the font for whatever size you made it. I mean WHATEVER size. You can make it as small as an icon and still see the text as dots. It can display full color digitized pictures in any size, even ditherizing for black and white if you want. He had a picture of the Sun founders standing in front of a beautiful sunset, and stretched it all around, and they got short and tall, and it processed the picture to any size. He made it iconic, and it looked like a full color passport photo. All this was automagic! He could do the same thing to a CAD/CAM window that was on the screen! And the whole thing was lightning fast! I could not believe something THAT sophisticated could run with such speed. It is DEFINITLY faster than X, not to mention SunStools. Excuse the raving incoherentness of this, but I am too completely flabbergasted to disguise my enthusiasm. I read the PostScript manual on the train to NJ and on the plane, and have not had a chance to partake in any hands-on molestation of a postscript environment. I plan to remidy that soon. I had an amusing time in a hot tub. I got a tour of DECWRL from Brian Reid. Also got a tape with a map of the world. Only 140 megabytes or so. Very detailed. We may stay till Wednesday, and try to catch the Sun Local Users Group Meeting. Met Walter Breen at the Chicago Airport going out west to SF! Stayed with Mitch Bradley, who's got a Sun at home, which has hardware with very low serial numbers, that he knows how to maintain due to having designed some of it. He's integrated MicroEmacs with his incredible 68000 Forth system. I've got a copy for the Amiga. He is porting SunDew to the Amiga. I saw it running. He's working on keyboard and mouse input now, but the sun can make it do things now over a serial port. PostScript is a religiously correct language, and from what I have seen it do is damn powerful. One contributing factor to the organization of this message is that I am typing it into mail instead of using emacs. If I was in emacs, I would stay there all night, so I will resist the temptation and bamboozle you with with intense discontinuity instead. At DECWRL there was room with more than 24 gigabytes of disk storage, and a Vax with 128 Meg of Semiconductor memory, not to mention the 25 MIPS RISC workstations that they had just put together a few of. About 7 Vax 780, 780-5, and 785's. And in that room there was just one token VMS machine, a 750. Eeeeeeeew! I must stop myself from flaming on, so that I may sleep. I will forward more details later. As you may guess, I am busy busy. -Don